No Ice Cream Sandwich for The Galaxy S or The Galaxy Tab.

For those of you out there that have a Samsung Galaxy S or a Samsung Galaxy Tab, this is probably not the news you wanted to hear just before Christmas. After all this is the most depressing time of the year, and Samsung isn’t making it any better. We have just heard the news that Samsung doesn’t plan on upgrading either the S or the Tab to ICS. Not because of age or hardware, but rather because of TouchWiz.

That’s right, Samsung wont be bringing ICS to these devices because of their TouchWiz skin. They say there isn’t enough Ram or Rom to run both the ICS OS as well as all of Samsung’s “experience-enhancing” software, aka bloatware. Don’t get me wrong, TouchWiz is one of the better skins to be laid over The Android OS, but I bet we can all agree, that we can live without it. Right? I mean I would chose TouchWiz any day over Sense, however I would also choose pure Android over both. (Or any skin for that matter.)

This for me, and I’m sure for others out there, isn’t that big of a deal. We all have the option to get new phones, provided our bank account has the funds, or it’s time for an upgrade. However there are a few of you that neither one of these options are attainable. To you we give our condolences and hope that one day soon we don’t find ourselves in the same boat. If you do find yourself in this dilemma, please let us know your frustration in the comments section below.

Source The Verge

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  • Anchorclanker007

    Well, you just ruined my day. I was going to buy a Tab tomorrow, but may have to wait for the Prime or next ICS device to be announced. Samsung lost a sale today.
    Thank you…

    • Spencer McClendon

      @Anchorclanker007, I too am waiting for the prime, however the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is going to get ICS. But i do believe the Prime will out shine the Tab.

  • anon

    Love my nexus.

  • Maertsch

    No Updates means that this is a dead device. Its dead and has no guarantee. So i think i try to flash it with a custom rom. If its bricked afterwards I don’t care and get a new one.

    I dont want have a dead device. Feeling like in the 20th century.

  • vikash

    Wtf plz sammy update our tab to ics or at least honeycomb..plz

  • vikash

    Wtf plz sammy update our tab to ics or at least honeycomb..plz

  • Roy

    I’d like to know if galaxy s also means the s2 if it is so, yes you just ruined my christmass thanks budy.

    • Spencer McClendon

      No the S2 will receive ICS. Your day may return to happiness. lol

    • Firewall

      I think S2 is included. just bought it last week :(

      • Martin Belcher

        Yes S2 is going to get I’Ve hurray! I think I’ll be getting a asap anyway ;)

  • Anonymous

    No big deal? Why should I have to get a new device so early into my contract? This is a flagship device that never even saw one major update. What’s the point of buying a high spec phone if it’s rendered obsolete long before it’s hardware is? Yes I have the option to get a new phone and do you really think it’s going to be android?

    Yea you could get a nexus device but there goes the idea of choice and besides none are available on my carrier. The majority of people don’t know what a nexus device is…not knowing what you’re getting is a problem with android in itself. I suppose you can break any kind of warranty or carrier support and go CM9, but this not a solution as it’s only an option for power users, and even as a tech enthusiast I’m getting sick of the DIY approach.

    • Geolemon

      What do you mean “so early into my contract?”
      The Galaxy S is an old phone,  you couldn’t have done a single Google search for “Galaxy S” without pulling up anything but news either in anticipation of the wildly improved Galaxy S II for at least a year now, and the delay of the release in the USA was not anticipated – but even that has been out for months now.

      If your contract was up at any point in the past 9 months (ie “early in my contract”) and you picked a Galaxy S over other phones that were out, that mistake is on you, not Samsung. 

      Now that the waambulance has you braced in the cradle-
      If you really want ICS on your phone, I’d suggest just rooting it.  Simple with superoneclick.  Then just install ICS – not the bloated TouchWiz variant, download a real one.  Maybe the Cyanogenmod one.  Better, nicer, faster, lighter, and you can install it and control it as you like.

      I kept an HTC Magic alive until GSII release for exactly this reason, using Cyanogenmod 6 on it.  And your Galaxy S has 2-3 times the specs of that antique device now. 

      I’d suggest taking a realistic route like this rather than pout in the corner and say “But THEY didn’t UPDATE ME! wah!”
      No one cares.
      Update it yourself, like everything else you own.  Like your PC.  Be a man.  Not a child.

      • Anonymous

        Old? It’s been in the market for a little over a year. If you think this is old you are the one that needs to grow up. Is support discontinued when it stops receiving support(the last update) or when they tell you to F off? This is a device that is readily available in the market, but when I got the phone(roughly 10 months ago) it was a flagship device.You may squander your time ogling the Samsung roadmap but that’s just you…normal people buy what’s available. And even today the hardware is still very capable. I don’t know what you’re smoking but the Galaxy SII hasn’t been out for anywhere close to a year and only since August in North America and most other countries in June or July. Shoot I missed those commercials that aired 8 months before release….but maybe it’s me, maybe my interest in the ecosystem was less before I joined it.

        Samsung should care. Though you and I can make due with a DIY self approach, many can’t or don’t want too. They are alienating these users.  More importantly they shouldn’t have to. What Samsung is saying is now that they got you’re money they don’t care. And the writer of this post suggests giving them more to make it better, which is probably one of the reasons they didn’t issue the update. This is not a good customer service experience. It ain’t about the money it’s the principle. Why should I buy a device from a manufacturer that doesn’t even support it’s own devices, at least not for a reasonable timeframe.

        These complaints need to be heard to make Android a better platform for all. Why are you insulting others and defending a corporation that obviously doesn’t care about you. If you can only think think of you’re own experience and not stand up for others then I don’t consider you to be a man. I understand what you saying if you don’t want the hassle  of a DIY platform don’t buy android and I won’t. I only feel sorry for the non powerusers that weren’t informed of this when they bought the device. Even when I was buying my device everyone was like “get a flagship…go Samsung and you’re golden”. And Google has been going on about all the steps it’s talking to remedy this. I didn’t get the memo that the Android Update Alliance was died at birth. Alot of mixed messages are being sent. Samsung and Android needs to step up and do what other platforms already are if they want to remain competitive, rather than creating enemies.

        • Christopher Evert

          “Many can’t or don’t want to”
          They aren’t alienating those users.

          For those who want to just get a phone, and just use a phone – those type of people would be more frustrated and inconvenienced to find their phone suddenly not working exactly like it always has – suddenly, inexplicably with a whole new interface, look and feel to learn.  That’s not a welcome thing to those non tech-saavy people. Those people – the ones who “can’t or don’t want to” upgrade their phones – they appreciate things staying the same.

          Some people would appreciate waking up in the morning, getting in their car to make their morning commute, to find their old car’s dashboard removed, with a new model installed.  They’d welcome the new features as justifying the trade-offs of having to learn a whole new dashboard and get used to it.  Some people would be pissed, and just want their old dashboard back “Why did they change it? I was fine with my dashbaord before!” they’d cry.

          In many ways, it’s good to give people the choice, and let nature help with that choice.  If you want ICS – you can install it.  You can make the decision that the features are worth the change, and be rewarded for (very mild) efforts with the newest, latest, and greatest – in fact, enhanced, if you went with say, CM9 when available from the Cyanogen community.
          And if you don’t want ICS, you can keep what you have.
          Or find an in-between solution, like just installing a new launcher.

          There’s no hoards of people complaining to Samsung (or anyone) that “my device is working the same way it always has – damnit!”
          Once you’ve been on a phone for a year, that’s what you expect.  Especially if you are one of those people who wants things to work like it always has.

          And if you feel otherwise – you have that choice. It’s easy.

          • Anonymous

            “For those who want to just get a phone, and just use a phone” are you talking about dumb phones. Because this doesn’t describe most of the non-tech enthusiast smartphone users I know. If I told my non-techy friends I’d update their devices to a newer,
            better, and much more user friendly version of Android they’d be all over it. As this update focuses on making android user friendly they’d arguably benefit the most. I would have to
            tell them what their getting into and give them the choice.

            Your argument suggest that no phone should ever be updated. You’re describing is exactly what will happen when the Gallaxy SII gets ICS, because no skin is going to make your device work “exactly like it always has” pre-ICS not even close. Didn’t mango get 500 new features…still no complaints.

            I don’t buy that touch wiz can’t be ported. Non-techy’s want better software too and Samsung is banking on it…they won’t
            upgrade your phone because they want you to buy a new phone with better features(ICS). It costs them more to upgrade a phone you already bought than
            have you buy a new phone. If what you’re saying is true no non-techy will want to upgrade their device. Is ICS that unimpressive? And yes new devices have new hardware but they also cost money and a update is free so lets consider this point moot.

            You method of choice only exists for enthusiasts/few. A real choice is  communicating the difference and availability but making it opt in or even proactive. And of course it has to be easy with no voiding of warranties or carrier support.  Also this device is on the market and
            spec-wise it is mid-range some people will buy it, do they benefit? Or is this another case of you never know what you’re going to get.

          • Anonymous

            “For
            those who want to just get a phone, and just use a phone” are you talking
            about dumb phones? Because this doesn’t describe most of the non-tech
            enthusiast smartphone users I know. If I told my non-techy friends I’d update
            their devices to a newer, better, and much more user friendly version of Android
            they’d be all over it. As this update focuses on making android user friendly
            they’d arguably benefit the most. I would have to tell them what their getting
            into and give them the choice…I see no reason why Samsung can’t do this.

            “Those people – the ones who “can’t or don’t want to”…. they
            appreciate things staying the same.” Your argument suggests that no phone
            should ever receive updates by none DIY means. But what you’re describing is
            going to happen anyways when the Galaxy SII gets ICS…no skin is going to make
            your device work “exactly like it always has” pre-ICS not even close.
            Could you link me the article on how iPhone users revolted over emasculate
            support, I guess they must be a tech-savvy bunch. Didn’t mango get 500 new
            features…still no complaints. Just maybe beneficial change as opposed to
            being abandoned is appreciated by the majority. Your method of choice only
            exists for enthusiasts/few and restrict android to being a DIY platform. A real
            choice is communicating the difference and availability but making it opt
            in or even proactive. And of course it has to be easy/available to everyone
            with no risk, and no voiding of warranties or carrier support.  

            I don’t buy that touch wiz can’t be ported. Non-techies want and benefit from
            better software too and Samsung is banking on it…they won’t upgrade your
            phone because they want you to buy a new phone with better features(ICS). It
            costs them more to upgrade a phone you already bought than have you buy a new
            phone.

            People are complaining: fragmentation and lack of support are the most common
            complaints I hear about android. I can show you forums full of these
            complaints. Yes many are still unaware, but that doesn’t make it ok. Google
            “theunderstatement” and invite some people not in the know to read this
            article(unfortunately I can’t link it) see what they think, instead of telling
            them what they think.

            • Christopher Evert

              I was responding to your point – now you seem to have amnesia.  I quoted what I was responding to – let’s try again.

              You said “many people can’t or don’t want to update to the latest and greatest”.  Those people are inherently the less tech-savvy among us [or else your statement wouldn't hold true].  Those people are not the ones pursuing the bleeding-edge.  They don’t care if their device isn’t on the newest most recent version.  Why?
              It’s a minority of people who are pursuing that bleeding edge, or even have an awareness of what “version” of Android is on their phones. And even a smaller number still who are aware of what differences there are between versions. The majority of people want things to work, tomorrow, just the same as they always have.  Computer, microwave, TV, car, phone.
              Only the geeks will argue “Don’t you know this is a better version?” when they hear people groan that things have changed, and they “used to” know where this was, that was, or that this “used to” work differently, and they can’t get” used to” how things have changed…
              The majority of people don’t like change.  
              It’s not all rainbows and sunshine. Ever.

              Some people will buy Windows 8 the week it is available.  Some people are still running Windows XP.  And all have their own personal reasons.  Not everyone wants to be updated to the newest, most cutting edge… and also least stable, least familiar version.  Those who “can’t or don’t want to update” have even more reason for staying with the current version, because not only is it what they are familiar with, it’s stable, it works as it always has.

              You are right, TouchWiz for ICS won’t look exactly like TouchWiz for Gingerbread.  That’s exactly my point.  And if you ask Samsung – exactly theirs as well, as to why they aren’t going to update everyone’s phone.

              That doesn’t mean you can’t.

            • Anonymous

              I think you’re the one with amnesia…I’m saying I disagree. I’ve
              heard arguments like these 100 times: …if you’re technically inclined you can root
              and flash…if you are not a techy then you are too stupid too matter and certainly
              too dumb to appreciate an upgrade. This is just snobbery. It stereotypes and
              makes no room for grey, which is actually the majority: Those not so technically
              inclined but are capable of appreciating a free upgrade and good device support.
              The fact that the iPhone and WP7 both have immaculate support and have higher customer
              satisfaction ratings is very telling. It’s not about “chasing tech” it’s about being
              able to appreciate the benefits from receiving support. Not receiving security
              updates for a large part of your contract is a big deal, especially for the
              non-techies. If you can’t live up to the same design challenges competitors
              face of balancing progress with consistency you only have yourself to blame. But
              even if you can’t…by not at least offering a real option/choice that doesn’t
              have barriers to entry, Samsung is not meeting the standards set by competitors.

              I’m not arguing the update needs to be forced if consistency
              is the real issue, just for a more user friendly and official method of choice.
              Try telling enterprise…no more security updates useless you root and flash…unless
              you buy a new device.

              All you’re saying is that the benefits of support aren’t immediately
              apparent and as a result many are unaware so it’s ok, but even denying the fact
              that they would benefit is laughable… it’s not hard to appreciate a feature
              that makes your life easier or better or security. This might be ok if
              competitors were doing the same but they are not….“Supported” vs. an “as is”
              product is a very marketable feature. It only takes one PR scheme or media scrutiny
              to raise awareness for this type of argument to lose steam.  Test it…try informing rather than making
              assumptions and then see what “these people” think. If a sales person gave the declaimer
              “hey this phone will support/offer updates for the duration of your contract
              and this one doesn’t (but feel free to test DIY options)” and then explained
              how significant these updates are: What device would they choose?

              To be fair it’s not all Samsung’s fault their other customers
              “Carriers” and Google’s lack of backbone play a part as well.

              BTW is your argument so flimsy you need to misquote? I never
              said “many people can’t or don’t want to update to the latest and
              greatest”……shame.

            • Christopher Evert

              I’ve never said anything about “less intelligent”, or “too stupid” is your direct quote.  
              My points had to do with being more conservative.  If you want to project your own values as to whether “conservative = stupid”, do so with your own name attached.To reiterate MY point, since you mutated it for your own purposes last time:Some people want things to work the way they always have.  They way they expect them to work – the same as every other time before.  The longer you have a device, the more ingrained ‘how it works’ becomes.

              After a year of use, to suddenly have your phone change how it behaves would cause many more groans than cheers, because many more people are conservative than geeks – and only the geeks would be aware of the benefits of the change.  Not to mention, after a year of use, even the geeks would have figured out ways to do without features that their phones have never had. So having Samsung swap it out in a compulsory manner would be forcing change.
              Not everyone wants change.  That’s a simple concept, has nothing to do with people being “stupid”.

              On a very related note – you also  missed my point about XP. 
              I work for a software development company that services large wall street banks.  Only this year are the first of these banks making the transition from XP to Windows 7. The reason is – banks are very conservative.  They won’t switch to new environments on a whim and promise of it being “better”.  They need to do work, and their current environment is stable, and it works.
              Note even Microsoft continues to support XP through 2014. That date was extended, btw, in large part because of large corporate entities like this.

              The bottom line has everything to do with stability – your point about security included.  Android is the same – the version that’s been out longest is always the most stable, and most secure.

              BTW, you said this:
              “I never said “many people can’t or don’t want to update to the latest and greatest”……shame.”

              …yes you did:
              “Though you and I can make due with a DIY self approach, many can’t or don’t want too.”

              …it’s ‘to’, also. Not ‘too’. And the phrase is ‘make do’, not ‘make due’.  So pardon me for paraphrasing on the quote, I had to translate it to make sense of it to begin with.
              I get that YOU want ICS on your phone, but thinking that EVERYONE wants it, or should have it, or should get it is misguided on many levels (we won’t even get into device compatibility), and brings us full circle back to my original point:

              If you want it-
              INSTALL IT.
              Don’t whine that someone else won’t do it for you.

            • Anonymous

              Lets just agree to disagree.

              Actually you inserted the words “to the latest and greatest”
              this is a miss-quote, you don’t need to remove it from your sentence, but you
              should take it out of quotations to show they are your words not mine. I
              obviously would not use this kind of loaded language as it ignores essential supports
              like security updates.
              For the 10th time I am not saying to have “Samsung
              swap it out in a compulsory manner …forcing change.” To quote myself in case you
              missed it, “I’m not arguing the update needs to be forced if consistency is the
              real issue, just for a more user friendly and official method of choice.“ Also
              I never argued “everyone” would appreciate support, I said the majority would appreciate
              it…either in the form providing security updates to old OS revisions, or by at
              least providing a real optional path that doesn’t have barriers to entry to
              continued support. Why do you keep
              ignoring the hard data that competitors offer immaculate support while maintaining higher
              customer satisfaction ratings.

              You’re missing the point XP is not a relevant comparison.
              Not killing you’re last OS the day the next iteration was released is the only
              reason “those people” have this option(XP). Android doesn’t support older versions
              with things like security updates, if they did my concern would be somewhat muted.
               It’s either update if you can or be vulnerable.
              Saying that a new OS is less secure than a last gen one, both on older (but
              still capable) hardware…is false. Older machines with Windows 7 are much more
              secure than older machines with XP or Vista. This was true even upon, release;
              it’s probably true for ICS too(or at least on par)…unless Google dropped the
              ball. And yes..the Galaxy S is capable enough…the general consensus is that ICS
              run as well if not better on it than gingerbread. But this is not the point;
              the point is when new gingerbread vulnerabilities arise there is no path to
              protection, a fix will never come…the majority/non-techies can enjoy being
              exploited for the rest of their contract or if you have a Tablet/noncontract
              device….much longer. They’ve been saying XP is nearing EOL for years and
              extended it many times to accommodate. Waiting for XP to no longer have a majority
              following and then continuing to support it many years after. THIS IS NOT THE
              SAME THING. THIS IS A BAD ANALOGY.  

  • Wtherrell

    Apparently 7.0+ will still get the update?  Cause even with Honeycomb I am lovin this thing!

  • Anonymous

    Samsung is like a bad santa, ruining Christmas for every Galaxy S user.
    Oh well, at least Cyanogen ninjas will deliver ICS goodness soon hopefully (by that I mean 99.9% working software).

  • Mark

    Was to be expected really. I flashed a custom ICS rom on mine the otherday and so far it has been flawless so I’m not too worried.

  • Andrew

    Last Samsung or non Google stock OS device I will buy, but maybe that’s their intention? My tab 10.1v device is slow and buggy from day one. Shame. For all the apple bashing that goes on, I can’t help but feel that Apple and Google are the only companies with passion.

  • Rockspy19

    They have already said ICS is coming for the S2 early next year. Samsung sent me and my wife both a galaxy s2 for free. Being an iPhone user for a year and a half I really like the S2. I have dl’d a few tweaks like the iPhone keyboard and notifications but this phone is great. Can’t wait to use ICS!

  • Free2rhyme

    haha ive read all your comments and all i can say is
    theres no update because samsung already knew that if they will update there galaxies, it will brick like a shit hahaha
    fucking korean piece of art….

  • cristian donose

    Ireally hate Samsung right now.

  • Fredoak3

    Who cares, Samsung is such an idiot of a company I’d never buy from them again. And besides I have ICS running on my Captivate (Galaxy S) without any issues at all (thanks to the folks at XDA).