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2010

Flash on Android ‘Shockingly Bad’ According to Website

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by Chris Moor
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GigaOM’s website, NewTeeVee.com, posted an article today demoing Flash running on Android via a Nexus One. In the article they end up describing Flash for Android as ‘shockingly bad’. This raises an important question to all people using Flash 10.1 on Mobile Devices; should we expect all Flash on the web to run perfectly on our mobile devices. Here is the video demo in question:

The presenter is a guy name Kevin Tofel. I see a key flaw in Kevin’s experiment. The flaw being that he has tested Flash in just about the worst examples for mobile possible. Here is my reasoning:

  • The players are very complex and power hungry. Specifically designed for use with desktops and powerful laptops.
  • The videos are not in any way optimized for mobile viewing. This is in a number of ways; resolution, quality, and even the shear size of the file that is being loaded.

Some people may say that these points should not matter. Adobe and Google said that they would be releasing a ‘full’ Flash player for Android. Neither company ever mentioned in their keynotes that we should expect not to be able to view every single Flash element from the web on our devices.

However, I beg to differ with that argument. While Adobe and Google didn’t warn us about the lack of quality in high performance Flash players, this is surely to be expected with such a small piece of kit. If you had a 10 year old laptop with Windows XP on it you wouldn’t expect ABC’s Flash Player of today to run like a dream on it, why expect a Nexus One or Desire to either?

Simply to load a desktop optimized player on a mobile device will take up most of the processing power that the device has to offer. That is even before we get to the issue of loading the content and rendering it.

A great example of how the web should be viewed on a mobile device with Flash 10.1 comes from the UK on the BBC’s online video player. They have created both a desktop high quality version of all their videos, and then it’s equivalent mobile optimized versions. There is also a striped down version of the full player to load the mobile optimized videos. Watch the following video I created to see this in action:

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What are your thoughts on this discussion readers? Should we have to compromise with our web experience now that we have Flash 10.1? Or is it fine to settle for mobile optimized versions of players? Should Google and Adobe have better explained the possibilities of Flash for Android in their Keynotes? Use the comments section below to discuss.

[via newteevee.com]

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Comments

  • Leo

    Another Apple Fan boy trying to make milkshake with rocks in a house blender… somebody please pay this guy from newteevee a crash course in phone tech, video and image proccesing.

  • Mathieu

    Flash 10.1 on my Nexus One is good enough.
    I can’t live without it now. Using it every day.

    BTW, Flash is not always running smoothly on Linux/Mac …

  • http://blog.nobien.net Matt W

    Its called common sense. And this guy doesn’t have any. Notice the Flash Player even has a built in notification when video isn’t optimized for a mobile device. Your reasoning for his experiment being flawed is completely correct.

  • Sotos

    Dude, your phone in the second video is the most laggy phone I ve ever seen. You should NOT make videos with this phone…Do you NOT see tha lag it has when you scroll?

  • dean

    pro apple?

  • Andrew

    That, and flash isn’t only for video anyway.. People often forget that flash actually has less uses for video than other things (such as menus, games, applets/tools). Yes those other things can be done with HTML5, but there are no decent keyframing HTML5 editors out there to make such applets.

    Kevin Tofel apparently has 15 years in the IT industry, and he should know better. Clearly he doesn’t understand computers as well as he should. I’d suggest he’s simply trying to become noticed/relevant in the IT industry again. Shame on him, this is pretty strong evidence about the fall of quality journalism.

  • bemymonkey

    Sometimes Flash video isn’t smooth due to all the other crap loaded on the page with it. An option to view just the Flash applet in its own window without all the other crap should help with that…

    Other than that… can’t say I’m not completely dependent on Flash on my Desire. It’s become a lifesaver – no more crying when I see an Engadget post with “with video” at the end of the title and a nothing but a blank space after the article… :)

  • Harou

    i suggest that guy to download flash showcase from the android market. the sites there like bbc, warner bros have wonderful flash 10.1 players. even the games from those gaming sites runs smoothly on my desire. I did a test on facebook web version and tried to run bejewel blitz, it lags though, as what have been mentioned above, sites like facebook games have not been optimize for mobile yet.

  • curse

    Gotta say that the standard youtube format on the second video where I could pause while it buffers worked better on my EeePC with 100Mbit fibre connection then the first videos odd format that didn’t buffer during pause, it had lags, skips and waits for me…

    So.. if his video lags on my 100Mbit connection, what’s saying that fox etc video should be super fast and smooth on his 25Mbit?

    Sure, it clearly shows that video not optimized for mobile devices really ain’t optimal to watch on a mobile device.

  • http://aenima.pl/ Robert

    Flash for Android still has some major issues, but poor Flash is still better than no Flash!

  • http://blog.bonuslevel.co.uk Mike Taylor

    Hey guys,

    Thanks for all the comments, good & bad.

    @sotos Sorry, I don’t actually see my phone being that laggy. Maybe that’s because I’m used to it. My camera should take most of the blame for the poor quality of the video though :P

    @Andrew Here, here! Journalists + technology (or video game reviews) is normally a bad combo. But these guys are a tech website, so no excuses for them! lol

  • noize

    Woo, im gonna have to root my phone now. I need to see the blue week-in week-out on my phone now. To be fair he should have fastforwarded to johnson getting a slap from the keeper

  • http://blog.bonuslevel.co.uk Mike Taylor

    @noize Nice! I strongly suggest the latest version of the Cyanogen Mod. They just released the full stable version of 6 this week.

    I’m even running the Multi Touch key board taken from the Droid X (I think). I might do a write up about that soon.

  • Ed

    I give up. Bought my son a Droid X and now learn it can’t use Flash? What a joke.
    Ok tech geniuses… what are my (our) options?

  • bemymonkey

    Followup: Wasn’t there a leaked 2.2 release floating around for the Droid X? Try Google.

  • jaden

    I had Google Nexus One as well; it was an alright phone, but I had more issues with the phone in a week than I did in the entire 2 years of owning a Nokia N95; which I switched back to after my Nexus One got stuck on the screen with the little robot, and wouldn’t load past it.

  • http://www.writeidea.info Dan Ogden

    For now we may have to put up with the watered down version of Flash 10.1 but as technology gains ground these will get better and we might end up with the real thing next time.

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  • http://itunedownload.net itune.com

    Great content, looking forward to tomorrow’s update!